The Series Topic, Part III

Мне, не е това, което си мислите... за архиви иде реч

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Post by alshu » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:11 pm

Ай ся...Вероника Марс...още малко и 24 The movie (чета, че проектът имал големи проблеми) ще цъфнe в kickstarter...

Не е ли идеята да се лансират оригинални идеи от независими автори, а не рециклаж на порядъчно сериализирани и популарни шоута правени от обръгнали професионалисти?
The coffee had been steadily growing more and more execrable for the space of three weeks, till at last it had ceased to be coffee altogether and had assumed the nature of mere discolored water — so this person said. He said it was so weak that it was transparent an inch in depth around the edge of the cup. As he approached the table one morning he saw the transparent edge — by means of his extraordinary vision long before he got to his seat. He went back and complained in a high-handed way to Capt. Duncan. He said the coffee was disgraceful. The Captain showed his. It seemed tolerably good. The incipient mutineer was more outraged than ever, then, at what he denounced as the partiality shown the captain’s table over the other tables in the ship. He flourished back and got his cup and set it down triumphantly, and said:

“Just try that mixture once, Captain Duncan.”

He smelt it — tasted it — smiled benignantly — then said:

“It is inferior — for coffee — but it is pretty fair tea.”

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Post by Roamer » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:34 pm

Ммм, доколкото разбрах, идеята не е била да се финансира напълно, а просто да бъде демонстриран интерес :) Иначе основният дял от финансирането би трябвало да си бъде поет от Warner Bros - или поне такава е била идеята, ще видим.
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Post by alshu » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:38 pm

Бе то лошо няма щом феновете по този начин могат да кажат думата си за това дали искат movie feature или не, пък и един VM филм едва ли ще е толкова скъп (дистрибуцията е ключовият момент)...просто съм свикнал да мисля, че kickstarter е по-скоро за подкрепа на нови идеи и артисти...явно продуцентите са царе да измислят все нови и нови методи за изстискване на средства и подкрепа от носталгията на зрителите :lol: .

Доколкото разбирам парите са за продукцията:
Keep in mind that the more money we raise, the cooler movie we can make. A two million dollar fundraising total probably means cross words are exchanged at the class reunion. Three million? We can afford a full-on brawl. Ten million? Who knows... For some reason the Neptune High class reunion takes place on a nuclear submarine! A Hobbit shows up! There’s a Bollywood end-credit dance number! I’ve always wanted to direct Bill Murray. We’ll figure out something cool. Hey, if that total goes high enough, I’ll bet the good folks at Warner Bros. will agree a sequel is a good idea.
Мисля, че WB могат просто да погледнат почти готовия продукт и да кажат "нас това не ни кефи и няма да го дистрибутираме"...или пък "кефи ни дайте го насам".
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The coffee had been steadily growing more and more execrable for the space of three weeks, till at last it had ceased to be coffee altogether and had assumed the nature of mere discolored water — so this person said. He said it was so weak that it was transparent an inch in depth around the edge of the cup. As he approached the table one morning he saw the transparent edge — by means of his extraordinary vision long before he got to his seat. He went back and complained in a high-handed way to Capt. Duncan. He said the coffee was disgraceful. The Captain showed his. It seemed tolerably good. The incipient mutineer was more outraged than ever, then, at what he denounced as the partiality shown the captain’s table over the other tables in the ship. He flourished back and got his cup and set it down triumphantly, and said:

“Just try that mixture once, Captain Duncan.”

He smelt it — tasted it — smiled benignantly — then said:

“It is inferior — for coffee — but it is pretty fair tea.”

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Post by armageddon » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:40 pm

Е не виждам проблем освен инди нещата, да мине и някой по- голям филмов проект през Kickstarter. Пък и успешното финансиране на Верониката предполагам ще отвори вратата и за още такива проекти. Примерно още Firefly, никой няма да има нещо против.

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Post by alshu » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:44 pm

Примерно още Firefly
Само дето за него ще трябва доста по-голям бюджет.
The coffee had been steadily growing more and more execrable for the space of three weeks, till at last it had ceased to be coffee altogether and had assumed the nature of mere discolored water — so this person said. He said it was so weak that it was transparent an inch in depth around the edge of the cup. As he approached the table one morning he saw the transparent edge — by means of his extraordinary vision long before he got to his seat. He went back and complained in a high-handed way to Capt. Duncan. He said the coffee was disgraceful. The Captain showed his. It seemed tolerably good. The incipient mutineer was more outraged than ever, then, at what he denounced as the partiality shown the captain’s table over the other tables in the ship. He flourished back and got his cup and set it down triumphantly, and said:

“Just try that mixture once, Captain Duncan.”

He smelt it — tasted it — smiled benignantly — then said:

“It is inferior — for coffee — but it is pretty fair tea.”

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Post by Vash » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:12 pm

В един AMA на Reddit Уидън беше писал, че това няма как да стане. Вече всички актьори се занимават с други неща, пък и той очевидно е много зает.

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Post by armageddon » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:36 pm

Те и всички актьори от Вероника Марс си се занимават с др неща, но са намерили дупка, в която да го снимат филма.

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Post by alshu » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:03 pm

Vash, това са организационни подробности, ние тук хипотетично говорим.
:D
(То е ясно, че преди да почнеш да търсиш финансова подкрепа, ще си се допитал до екипа за графиците им.)

На мен друго не ми харесва - евентуалното ново поведение на големите ТВ компании.
Първи сезон - X долара за продукция.
Втори сезон - X/2 долара за продукция.
Трети сезон - X/3 долара за продукция.
(Това си е както до сега, но следва новото.)
Четвърти сезон/филм - те феновете ще си го спонсорират сами. :lol:

А не е като да не могат да си го позволят или като да рискуват особено с филми по толкова популярни ТВ шоута, като VM и 24 (понеже отворих дума за него по-горе, не че съм фен).

То за някои конкретни случаи, ще е перфектната формула, но като масов бизнес принцип не ме кефи особено...
The coffee had been steadily growing more and more execrable for the space of three weeks, till at last it had ceased to be coffee altogether and had assumed the nature of mere discolored water — so this person said. He said it was so weak that it was transparent an inch in depth around the edge of the cup. As he approached the table one morning he saw the transparent edge — by means of his extraordinary vision long before he got to his seat. He went back and complained in a high-handed way to Capt. Duncan. He said the coffee was disgraceful. The Captain showed his. It seemed tolerably good. The incipient mutineer was more outraged than ever, then, at what he denounced as the partiality shown the captain’s table over the other tables in the ship. He flourished back and got his cup and set it down triumphantly, and said:

“Just try that mixture once, Captain Duncan.”

He smelt it — tasted it — smiled benignantly — then said:

“It is inferior — for coffee — but it is pretty fair tea.”

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Post by Vash » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:11 pm

Veronica Mars никога не е бил особено популярен и затова е прекъснат. Силно е възможно да е му нужен Kickstarter, за разлика от 24, който май до края си е трупал стабилен рейтинг.

За Firefly имах предвид, че каквито и да са истинските причини най-малкото Уидън вече няма интерес.

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Post by alshu » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:00 pm

Силно е възможно да е му нужен Kickstarter
Да, ама ако събере пари по този начин, значи е бил достатъчно популярен, а телевизията му е ударила балтията не по заслуги, а по конюнктурни причини :lol: .
за разлика от 24, който май до края
Да, ама филмът му страда в development hell-а точно заради недостиг на средства...т.е. компанията не е навита да рискува малко пари дори за толкова популярно и не особено скъпо заглавие.

Новата идея за подкрепа на относително по-големи филмови проекти с Kickstarter може да звучи, като мечтата на филм nerd-а...но в същото време е и начин компаниите да рискуват по-малко пари на гърба на феновете...при това за продукции с и без това безумно изтънели бюджети...
The coffee had been steadily growing more and more execrable for the space of three weeks, till at last it had ceased to be coffee altogether and had assumed the nature of mere discolored water — so this person said. He said it was so weak that it was transparent an inch in depth around the edge of the cup. As he approached the table one morning he saw the transparent edge — by means of his extraordinary vision long before he got to his seat. He went back and complained in a high-handed way to Capt. Duncan. He said the coffee was disgraceful. The Captain showed his. It seemed tolerably good. The incipient mutineer was more outraged than ever, then, at what he denounced as the partiality shown the captain’s table over the other tables in the ship. He flourished back and got his cup and set it down triumphantly, and said:

“Just try that mixture once, Captain Duncan.”

He smelt it — tasted it — smiled benignantly — then said:

“It is inferior — for coffee — but it is pretty fair tea.”

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Post by armageddon » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:12 pm

Силно ме съмнява да правят филма само с тези 2 милиона от Kickstarter. Или колкото там съберат докрая на кампанията.

От друга страна, появата на по-големи филмови проекти в Kickstarter определено няма да е във вреда на инди такивата, тъкмо ще има повече юзъри които да замерят проектите с пачки. Ако може да правим такива изводи след миналогодишното избухване на големи гейм проекти пак там и значителното увеличаване на интереса към сайта изобщо.

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Post by alshu » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:05 pm

The coffee had been steadily growing more and more execrable for the space of three weeks, till at last it had ceased to be coffee altogether and had assumed the nature of mere discolored water — so this person said. He said it was so weak that it was transparent an inch in depth around the edge of the cup. As he approached the table one morning he saw the transparent edge — by means of his extraordinary vision long before he got to his seat. He went back and complained in a high-handed way to Capt. Duncan. He said the coffee was disgraceful. The Captain showed his. It seemed tolerably good. The incipient mutineer was more outraged than ever, then, at what he denounced as the partiality shown the captain’s table over the other tables in the ship. He flourished back and got his cup and set it down triumphantly, and said:

“Just try that mixture once, Captain Duncan.”

He smelt it — tasted it — smiled benignantly — then said:

“It is inferior — for coffee — but it is pretty fair tea.”

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Post by armageddon » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:11 pm

http://www.vulture.com/2013/03/pushing- ... arter.html

В тоя ред на мисли тъкмо гледах Mockingbird Lane. Доста добра пилотка, а колкобеше разкошна визията нямам думи. Твърде жалко, че ще си остане само с единия епизод.

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Post by Killua » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:40 pm

Vikings почнах (мерси на Ян и Гибли за препоръката ;) ).
На втори епизод съм и ми е много интересно засега.
На места ми е доста брутален -
Spoiler: show
например избиването на християните.
Тотално съм влюбена в главния и жена му (голяма е хубавица: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935395/ ) Сцената, в която се биеха - безценна.. :lol:
А Флоки е голяма откачалка, радва :mrgreen:
Гледам, че е правен сериалът от Хистъри, та сигурно е по-автентичен от подобните нему. Е, поне викингите нямат рогати шлемове, та все е някакво начало ;р
Оупънингът е разкошен. :heart:
Жалко, че само 4 епизода има излезли, дано задържи и нататък доброто темпо.

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